Should Recreational Fishers Involve Themselves in the Politics of Fishing?

[CEO]

  TOPIC 15/2/08.           "SHOULD  RECREATIONAL  FISHERS  INVOLVE  THEMSELVES  IN  THE  POLITICS  OF  FISHING?"
   Should individual recreational fishers involve themselves in the politics of fishing, or should they simply leave it to government alone? It's all yours!

[opal]

   ecofishers keep out of the politics of fishing. leave that to the experts like the government and the Greens. you are so lucky to have an environmentally aware government looking after our community resource. you all need to get a real life and find a real sport that doesnt involve capturing, torturing and killing. you are not allowed to go into a national park and cut down and kill a tree for Xmas so why should you be allowed into government marine national parks to kill fish? and ceo talks harvesting all the time. isn't that a cute name for murder. already sanctuary zones are proving to boost the size, number and productivity of our fish stocks in the great lakes-port stephens and Batemans bay marine parks. These marine national parks are also already providing valuable tourism and economic benefits there too. this is what the community wants and this is what the government is delivering. thats democracy at work. you're a minority group out of step with community expectations. move on.

[Monty]

Opal, Thank you for your informative post. I hope you enjoyed your tofu and beans for tea. 

I think this shows us what the aims of the Grees are (if we did not already know) These anti enjoyment of the environment groups have got political and are trying to stop us doing what we do. If we dont get political we should just roll over and give up. Uniting against a common enemy will be the only way to win.

The efects of green animal liberation policies are starting to show with the exteme nature of the fires their management has caused. They need to be stopped before they do more damage.

[maniak]

O Pal?

I smells a rat!

Maniak

[row]

Experts like the Govt & The Greens ? environmentally aware ? you are being facetious aren't you opal ? the only thing this govt is aware of is where their preference votes come from.
Typical brainless greeny gibberish dribble, ill informed and based solely on quasi religous beliefs. It was wildfire warriors such as yourself who stopped the pre emptive burning off of fuel loads and blocked the creation of fire trails in National Parks, it was actions such as this which led to the ferocity of the Vic. fires. Politics ? this labor govt is in it's death throes, and when they go down so will the extreme green anti fishing brigade they so eagerly pander to.

[CEO]

   Crikey opal! To claim that government marine parks are boosting the size, numbers and productivity of our fish stocks is simply just another green myth.
Show us the science. Where is the data? Where is the evidence? Who has made this unfounded claim, other than the Greens? Produce the documentation right here, right now, for all to see. Please don't keep your information secret from science. We challenge you to put up or shut up!

[CEO]

  Now there is a very sound and just reason for recreational fishers to be involved in the politics of fishing. For if we aren't, we certainly can't leave it to the Greens or the current government to get it right for the community. No way. Look at the mess they have already created with their marine parks. So if fishers don't get involved, the Greens/government will do it for themselves and continue to ignore recreational fishing families. So I say to all recreational fishers get involved. Have your say. You pay a licence fee for it. Join and support ECOfishers - the voice of NSW recreational fishers! COPNSERVATION THRU' SUSTAINABLE USE.  MAKING PEOPLE PART OF THE SOLUTION!

[Open Oyster]

    If Marine Parks make available fish as big as the misinformation and unscientific data used by this government and the greens to create them  then Fishers ain't got lines strong enough to catch them. Truth (five letter word unfamiliar to the greens and government) is fishers will have to lobby politically to protect their "RIGHT TO FISH"
    Opal, "experts like the government and greens" read Kearneys papers www.ecofisher.com and really get the truth. Some very truthful (that word again) comments on marine parks being used are: "politically  bias", "fraudulently created", "environmentally unnecessary","undemocratic","unscientific and poorly managed", Environmental vandalisms" and these all from knowledgeable people
     Further still take your green policies to the fire areas of Victoria. I'm sure the people would like to discuss them with  you.

 

[Spiney]

I want to go and catch some of these bigger fish the Sanctuary Zones have produced. Trouble is the weather is not quite conducive to safe fishing from the rocks,natures way of conserving fish stocks I suppose. I was not aware data from the Port Stevens Great Lakes Marine Park was available to say fish stocks have improved. Once the wind  and swell drops I'm out of here and going fishing. The introduction of Marine parks have changed my political and voting preference. Nearing retirement MP's have changed my lifestyle for the worse.

[CEO]

    Leave it to the government and the Greens? No way! Been there. Done that. All we got was lies, conning, misrepresentation, deceit, green myths and misinformation. Why shouldn't recreational fishers, through ECOfishers, have a significant voice in determing their own future? After all, we are much better placed to do that than the Greens. And who in this community, would trust the Greens - an organization of stunt merchants and serial whingers.  What do the rest of you think?

[opal]

ecofishers youre so self centred. i am part of a large community group, not government funded, whose aim is to gain marine sanctuary status for at least 20% more, of our oceans stretching from tweed heads in the north to cape howe in the south. our sanctuarys  will give our NSW oceans protection for the future not only for our endangered species but also from the ravages of climate change which is closer than you realize. That is the only way we can all enjoy our oceans and seas for generations in the future. can't you fishers see you will be better off in the future if we provide sanctuary areas now? fish stocks all over the world are crashing because of people like you, so self centred. and the government agrees with the Greens.

[maniak]

Some say talking to yourself is a sign of genius, others say its indicative of insanity - personally, I think it detracts from the credibility of this site.

[CEO]

So opal, who do you think should represent NSW recreational fishers? You and the Greens, you and the government, or the Greens and the government?
By the way, do any of your mob actually fish? Do you really know what the real issues and impacts are on our marine environment? On a scale from 1 to 10, (10 being the least impact) where would you rate the "impact" of recreational fishing on marine biodiversity and associated ecosystems?

[Spiney]

Must admit I talk to myself a lot when fishing. On a lighter side I was quite dissapointed yesterday, I managed to catch 5 Luderick in very rough water but they were all of normal size. I'd say the water was too rough for the big fish to come out of the Sanctaury Zone and they stayed at home.The fish will be eaten tonight to feed a family of four.

[CEO]

    Great harvesting Spiney. Nothing better than fresh local product. It is readily available, cheap, highly nutritious, contains the essential Omega 3 oils and guess what? It's ORGANIC!! The greenies will love that!